Friday, April 15, 2005

Zimun

Responding to Mar Gavriel's question: I don't say changing our practice as "getting rid of" the halakhah. Rather, I see it as a different interpretation that we hold due to changes in how we view women. The assumption made by the Stam is that women are only (at best) two-thirds of a man (it's a little too tempting to recall the three-fifths compromise). In our day, when we assume that women are equal to men (in what way, I'll leave to a machloket between second and third wave feminism), women have an obligation to make a mezumenet.
Robert Cover, in his article "Nomos and Narrative," argues that law cannot be divorced from assumptions, hopes dreams, philosophies, etc. which we refers to as "narrative." I therefore find it difficult interpret the halakhah as zimun only being a reshut for women when Tosafot's reading is premised upon the belief that women are only two-thirds of a man.
I'd like to hear from anyone else who has read the Robert Cover article how they would apply it to our case.

17 Comments:

At Friday, 15 April, 2005, Blogger Mar Gavriel said...

There is little question in my mind that women are obligated to make a זימון for themselves, כדאיתא במסכת ערכין. The question is whether men and women can count in the same זימון, or whether that is פריצותא. How is it פריצותא for, say, two men and two women to say let us bless God, but not for the same group of four people to go to a movie?

Or are there other reasons, besides פריצותא, that men and women can't be מצטרפין for a זימון?

 
At Friday, 15 April, 2005, Blogger Mar Gavriel said...

If מאה נשי כתרי דמיין, aren't women equivalent to 1/50 of a man?

[And by the way, מאה נשי כתרי דמיין means one hundred women are equivalent to to MEN. It does not mean one hundred women are equivalent to two women, for that would be מאה נשי כתרתי דמיין.

(תרי is the masculine word for two.
תרתי is the feminine word for two.)

 
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